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DESTROYING THE GREEK TIMELINE, CORRECTED EGYPTIAN TIMLINE

by "Lars Wilson" <siaxares@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 1, 2008 at 07:45 AM

The revisions in the Greek timeline will affect Egyptian timeline for this 
period and back to the invasion by ****shak.   Early dating from the 18th 
Dynasty back are not affected by this revision/correction.

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It's difficult, with all the fake do***ents and coverups to challenge the 
present secular dating for the NB Period, very set into place by 
astronomical texts and Ptolemy's canon. It's hard to convince scholars
that 
the Bible's timeline must prevail.

Plus COJ himself has presented lots of evidence sup****ting the current 
timeline, evidence that must be claimed by those following the strict 
Biblical chronology where the 1st of Cyrus occurs in 455 BCE, have to
claim 
are "fake" and "revised" and there was a "conspiracy"! But that doesn't go

over very well. Even though the VAT4956 itself has the correct dating for 
year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar in 511 BCE.

So now there is a NEW FOCUS! You see, the extra years that were added that

distort the current timeline, were added partly by Xernophon who added 58 
years to the Greek timeline. He was paid by the Persian government to
revise 
Thucydides and he enlisted the help of Plato and Plato's students to 
reconstruct the timeline.

Therefore, if you expose Xenophon's revisions to the secular timeline,
when 
the 58 years are removed from the Greek timeline, the entire timeline will

immediately self-correct, making the Biblical and secular timelines 
completely in-sync.

To keep things simple, I'm creating [b]THE LIST. [/b] It will be 10 
interesting discrepancies from the Classical Greek Period that help
confirm 
the timeline was expanded. Once the Greek timeline is considered to be 
unreliable, then the astro-corrected timeline already in place will become

the official new SECULAR TIMELINE.

Since JWs made the mistake of relying upon the secular timeline,
ultimately, 
for their current dating, namely, 539 BCE as a "pivotal date" for the fall

of Babylon, they will be forced like the rest of the world to adjust that 
event when the Greek timeline falls. That's easier than arguing with COJ
and 
the WTS over tablets dated to "year 51 of Artaxerxes", which could be
fake, 
erroneous, or misunderstood.

I want a nice list of ten good ones. This is what I have so far.

1. The Delian Problem. Plato is consulted 3 years before he was born. When

corrected, he is 55 years old.

2. Plato's mother has to be 60 years old when Plato is born if his two
older 
brothers are close to the age of Socrates, who is currently 41 years older

than Plato. When the timeline is corrected, Socrates is only 7 years older

than Plato (435 vs 428 BCE).

3. The PPW eclipse. Doesn't work for 431 BCE as a total eclipse that
caused 
the stars to come up with just a crest remaining. It does match 402 BCE, 
however, allowing us to specifically redate the PPW based on this eclipse.



http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/431-402BCE.JPG

  http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/403darkcomp.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/402-431eclipses.GIF



This specific redating allows alignment with the 455 BCE chronology!

4. In Plato's "Republic" the host of a discussion is Cephalus who dies "in

430 BCE" in the second year of the PPW. Thus this event must occur before 
the war begins and at a time when Socrates and Plato's brothers are young 
men. Historians are trying to date this to 429 BCE or 413 BCE, which is 
after the current dating! This is resolved when the war is moved to 403
BCE.

5. Bandis/Artemis dating. Again, Plato's "Republic" occurs the first year 
the goddess Bandis/Artemis is introduced. Scholars have tried to date this

and date it either in 429 or 413 BCE, but both dates are after the PPW 
begins now in 431 BCE. This event must occur before the death of Cephalus 
who is present who dies in the 2nd year of the war. Again, a chronology 
problem.

6. ARCHYTAS! Said to have known people who died before he was born. Also
he 
solves "The Delian Problem" of doubling he cube, adding credibility to the

legend that Plato assigned him the challenge when charged with this task
in 
the first year of the PPW when a plague broke out.

Here's just an example of how fun the life of Archytas is:

[quote]In the middle of the fifth century, when the Pythagorean meeting 
place in the house of mIlo at Croton was attacked (ca. 454), the only two 
Pythagoreans to escape, Lysis and Archippus, were Tarentines; Archippus is

re****ted to have fled to Tarentum (Iamb. VP 250). Aristoxenus tells us
that, 
after this attack on the Pythagoreans, all the Pythagoreans left Italy 
except Archytas (Iamb. VP 250=A6b). THIS RE****T ODDLY ASSOCIATES ARCHYTAS 
WITH EVENTS TWENTY TO THIRTY YEARS BEFORE HIS BIRTH....[/quote]

ROFL!!! I know!! But obviously, removing the extra 58 years would resolve 
this! This is typical evidence of expansionism.

7. HIPPOCRATES. This is a double whammy. For one, Hippocrates is supposed
to 
be older than Socrates, and two, his writings cover a period of over 100 
years! Thus it is thought he could not have written all of them. Either
way, 
you have to take the last 50 or the first years, right? This, of course,
is 
the result of Hippocrates being right in the middle of the expansion
period. 
This is resolved when the extra years are removed.

Here's the quote about being older than Socrates. Right now Hippocrates is

born in 460 and Socrates in 479; Socrates was actually born in 435 BCE, 32

years before the PPW begins in 403 BCE.

[quote]Aulus Gellius, a Roman rhetorician of the second century A.D., puts

it this way:

Then the great Peloponnesian War began in Greece, which Thucydides has 
handed down to memory...During that period Sophocles, and later Euripides,

were famous and renowned as tragic poets, Hippocrates as a physician, and
as 
a philosopher, Democritus; Socrates the Athenian was [u][b]younger[/b][/u]

than these, but was in part their contem****ary. ([i]Noctes Atticae
XVII.21, 
16-18[/i])[/quote]

Everybody's ages will likely be adjusted a little, but Socrates must have 
been sufficiently younger than Hippocrates to deserve this mention,
perhaps 
15-20 years younger at least.

8-9: The issues related to Aristotle and Socrates being lovers. Basically,

Aristotle quoting from Socrates and mentioning him in his works up to 80 
times. The similarities between "Phaedo" and Aristotle. Both orphaned at
10, 
both raised by someone teaching them philosophy, and both turned over to 
Plato at age 18. Socrates dies in 366 BCE per corrected chronology which
is 
when Aristotle (b. 484 BCE) would have been 18 as well. Too many 
coincidences. Phaedo was said to be very handsome, and so was Aristotle
(he 
has several busts on the net on display if you Google "Aristotle"). The 
invention of "Phaedo" was necessary once Socrates was moved back in time
and 
dies in 399 BCE, some 15 years before Aristotle is born, so a substitute 
lover for Socrates had to be created. This is an interesting
pseudo-cryptic 
confirmation that Aristotle and Phaedo were the same person:

[quote]A story is told of Plato giving a reading of his Phaedo, a
pur****ted 
record of Socrates' last day. The dialogue is moving and solemn. As Plato 
was reading, however, his audience gradually melted away. In the end, 
Aristotle alone was left. Probably fictitious, the anecdote was invented
to 
express a truth: Aristotle was, in fact, spellbound by the Socratic
doctrine 
of immortality as expounded by Plato. It not only interested him 
intellectually but also absorbed him emotionally.[/quote]

Of course, our focus is on the fact that this links Phaedo specifically to

Aristotle. Why was he so interested? Why did this legend get mentioned so 
much? Was it a cryptic understanding that in reality Phaedo was the
invented 
character of Aristotle himself?!!! Of course, Aristotle is enthralled,
it's 
HIM!!

10. Xenophon is easily seen as the redactor of Thucydides, some saying he 
actually became the publisher of Thucydides. He's connected with Persian 
influence and history because he wrote [i]Cyropaedia [/i]("The Education
of 
Cyrus") which is the history of Cyrus, the Persian. WHY? Why is this Greek

historian, the only one whose complete works survive be so interested in 
Persian history? Obviously, the Persians had plenty of money to pay for 
this, including for the help from Plato and Aristotle to revise their 
records. But also, Persia played in Greek politics and Persia was 
pro-Spartan as was Xenophon. So there was that political angle inducement
as 
well that must be considered. But also, of note, Xenophon claims to have 
been present at the famous "Symposium" which at this time would have made 
him around 8 years old! This has been commented on by historians...

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/copy2a.JPG

Xenophon also implies he knew Socrates when both were young which 
contradicts Socrates being now 40 years older than Xenophon. But, again,
as 
a red flag for revisionism, this suggests years were ADDED to the
timeline. 
When Socrates is moved down in time 28 years then he is still older than 
Xenophon but only by 6 years, thus both could have been adults at the time

of the Symposium.

Of note, Plato and Xenophon both provide a history of the "Symposium" and 
other dialogues of Socrates. WHY? Are they preserving or "editing"? This 
links the two of them to masterful revisionism for this period, easily 
explained by MONEY. Plato was poor early on, even being sold into slavery
at 
one point. Then suddenly he has enough money to open an "academy" in his 
later years? And so does Aristotle? They were poor to begin with, but rich

in the end.

SUMMARY: You can't ignore all these discrepancies without suspecting 
something is wrong or revisionism. But as SOON as you even contemplate it,

the alternative timeline becomes theoretically an academic issue. At this 
point, though, the entire adjustment of the Persian and Neo-Babylonian 
timelines has already been set in place!

That is, as soon as the Greek historians realize they have to remove these

58 years and start wondering how to adjust the Persian and NB Period and 
Assyrian Period, it has ALREADY BEEN DONE by redated astronomical key 
events.

1. The 431 BCE eclipse is a better match to 402 BCE, beginning the PPW in 
the summer 403 BCE. This redates ****shak's invasion to 424 BCE, where 
another eclipse in the spring is confirmed by Herodotus. The Battle of 
Salamis is 10 years earlier in 434 BCE, the year the temple was completed,

21 years after it began. This dates the 1st of Cyrus to 455 BCE!
Artaxerxes 
also dies in the 8th year of the war after 41 years, which means he began 
his rule in 437 BCE. This is 2 years after Darius I begins his rule in 439

BCE, meaning the two were co-rulers for 4 years from 437-433 BCE. Darius 
dies at Marahon and Artaxerxes finishes the buildings at Persepolis.
Darius 
only finishes his palace which only took two years. But Artaxerxes is just

the second name of Xerxes! We have a do***ent dated to year 38 of 
"Artaxerxes also known as Arses(Xerxes)" which can fit no other king. Plus

Artaxerxes is buried between Darius I and Darius II!! That proves
Artaxerxes 
succeeded Darius I as the Bible says! At any rate, Artaxerxes was 18 when
he 
came to the throne and Xerxes was said to be born the year his "father" 
became king. He was chosen over this brothers because they had begun
calling 
him "Prince Xerxes." 18 plus 437 is 455 BCE, the year Cyrus, Xerxes' 
grandfather became king. A king****p more significant than that of Darius
I, 
since this was when Cyrus took over the entire Medo-Persian empire. Thus
you 
have two references that independently date the 1st of Cyrus to 455 BCE. 
This aligns the Greek Period perfectly with the Adjusted Persian Period. 
From here it gets easy!!

2 & 3: The NB Period is simple to redate with several astronomical texts.

VAT4956: This double-dates year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar to 511 BCE. A 
no-brainer.

SK400: This matches the interval for two lunar eclipse to 541 BCE, where
the 
interval matches the text of 2:46 but is a mismatch for 523 BCE, 18 years 
later, dated to "year 7" of Kambyses. 541 BCE is "year 7" of
Nebuchadnezzar, 
the same dating you get with the VAT4956.

THALES ECLIPSE: Thales predicted an eclipse that was negotiated by 
Nabonidus. Nabonidus was not ruling in 585 BCE where that eclipse is 
currently dated and scientists claim he could not have predicted that 
eclipse. But Nabonidus redated from 480-462, with a 2-year sole rule****p, 
s****ts an eclipse that goes through Ionia that was predictable by an
eclipse 
54 years 1 month earlier in Egypt, which is where Thales did his astronomy

apprentice****p. Therefore, Thales just warned his fellow countryman about 
the predicted eclipse he found out from the Egyptians!!

http://www.geocities.com/ed_maruyama/thalesx.html

NABON 18: Another fun comparison. In order to redate the SK400 to 541 BCE,

you must adjust the time of the first eclipse to "one hour before
midnight". 
This adjustment must be applied to all other eclipse times. The Nabon 18 
s****ts an eclipse that caused a panic as the moon set while "eclipsed" 
(dark). The substitute eclipse is a partial one in 454 BCE, year 2 of 
Nabonidus, which was all but over by the time the moon sets. Hardly one to

cause a panic. But when the timing is readjusted per the SK400, the
original 
eclipse in 479 BCE, year 2 of Nabonidus, is in the last minutes of
totality 
when the moon sets! That means the Babylonians would have seen the moon go

total, "turn to blood" and remain that way for 1 hour and 36 minutes
before 
the moon then set before beginning recovery! THIS would have caused a 
panic!! A TOTAL ECLIPSE that SETS WHILE TOTAL! This caused Nabonidus to 
sacrifice his daughter to the service of the Moon god, Sin.

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/479x541J.JPG

ARE WE CONVINCED YET?

In the meantime, the VAT4956 double-dating dismisses all astronomical
texts 
aligned to the current timeline as coming out of the Seleucid Period as 
revised astrotexts. WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL ASTRONOMICAL TEXTS? These
should 
have numbered into the thousands. We have thousands of other texts from
the 
reign of Nebuchadnezzar, but zero astronomical texts. Yet we know they 
existed during the Seleucid Era since we have the SK400 and VAT4956 
"copies". Conclusion: Obviously, they were all destroyed during the
Seleucid 
Era, after some of them were redated. The VAT4956 and SK400 betray the new

chronology by cryptic references to the original timeline. There are now 
five extant copies or fragments of the SK400, proving it was designed to 
survive over the times and remain a key to the original chronology that
was 
lost via the astronomical texts destroyed during the Seleucid Era.

THE ASSYRIAN EPONYM ECLIPSE: Finally, another easy one, this eclipse dates

the entire Assyrian eponym list now dated to 763 BCE. However, this
requires 
the year to begin before the spring equinox, which was a practice by
others 
and occasionally by the Assyrians, but not customarily. Normally, the year

begins [b][i]after [/i][/b]the equinox. This eclipse though, was in a
series 
of "predictable" eclipses that occured every 54 years and 1 month later in

the same region, only about 11 degrees (550 miles) farther north. Thus the

709 BCE eclipse occuring on July 19 is a better match. Not only does it
fall 
in the customary third month of Simanu, it also would have been the third 
eclipse in the series seen by Assyria, making it predictable by the timing

and pattern location of the first two eclipses! This would thus represent 
likely the first solar eclipse in ancient history that was predicted!!
This, 
in turn, would explain why it was mentioned in the Assyrian eponym, which 
just references main events for each year in a short reference. This
eclipse 
event must have been a major social and civic event to get mentioned. That

fits the cir***stance of a predicted eclipse, which points to 709 BCE as 
well! Of course, it does!! It was actually the original eclipse!



Predictable eclipse pattern that even NASA doesn't realize was possible!!

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/4653/709.gif

WE'RE DONE!

Anonymous



Submitted by:

Lars Wilson

(New!) Corrected Timeline Outline:

http://www.geocities.com/siaxares/709guide.html
 




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