Re: There was no Holocaust, it was one part of a grand anti-nationalist dystopian myth

People are taken to court to make an example for the rest of society this
is 
not democratic it is scaring the rest of society not to dispute the 
holocaust and a gag order.
Kurt Knoll.

"TurkeyBoy" <ataturkey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Feb 7, 8:05 pm, tur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:47:13 -0800 (PST), TurkeyBoy
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>> <atatur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >On Feb 7, 5:49 pm, Wexford <wrya...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On Feb 7, 3:12 am, "Kurt Knoll" <kkno...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> >> > Is it really. So is the bible history and everyone has to believe
in 
>> >> > it.
>> >> > When people who are asking questions about it being taken to court
I 
>> >> > do get
>> >> > suspicious. For you it is a one way street and hallelujah fanatics

>> >> > act the
>> >> > same way. We liven in a modern society where someone or call it 
>> >> > anyone
>> >> > should have the right to ask questions.
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>> >> I've met people who were involved with liberating the camps. I've
also
>> >> seen the films, read several books on it, and talked with survivors.
>> >> The holocaust deniers are liars of the worst sort, racists and Nazi
>> >> wannabes. They disgust any human being with the least sense of
justice
>> >> or honor.
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>> >Here are some holocaust deniers who are liars of the worst sort,
>> >racists and ZioNazi wannabes. They disgust any human being with the
>> >least sense of justice or honor:
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>> >----------------------------------------
>> >http://www.forward.com/articles/11847/
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>> >Turkish Jews Decry Armenian Genocide Bill
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>> >By Marc Perelman
>> >Wed. Oct 17, 2007
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>> >In its bare-knuckled lobbying to defeat a congressional resolution
>> >recognizing the Armenian genocide, Turkey has gained a valuable ally:
>> >its own Jews.
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>> >Last week an advertisement from the "Jewish community of Turkey" was
>> >published in the conservative Wa****ngton Times and was quickly passed
>> >around the capital by Turkey's lobbyists. The ad warned that the
>> >overwhelming majority of Turks view Congress's intervention as
>> >"inappropriate, unjust, and gratuitously anti-Turkish."
>> >----------------------------------------
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>> >If Jews mean what they say when they say that "person who denies the
>> >Holocaust becomes part of the crime of the Holocaust itself" then they
>> >are part of the crime of Armenian Genocide itself.
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>> >Is there a double standard here?
>>
>> no, there isn't
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYz3IigNE0
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> In a free society, you would be entitled to your opinion about the
> Armenian and Jewish genocides (deny or affirm as you please) just as
> others are entitled to their opinions. You can find numerous re****ts,
> videos and whatnot to sup****t claims that the Armenian and Jewish
> genocides happened and conversely you can find numerous re****ts,
> videos and whatnot to sup****t claims that the Armenian and Jewish
> genocides did not happen.
>
> What you want to believe is up to you and to anyone else. There are a
> few countries where it is a crime to deny the Jewish Genocide and
> people are in prison today for publi****ng works that dispute the
> Jewish Genocide. In France, one can land in prison for denying the
> Armenian or Jewish genocides while in Turkey someone can land in
> prison for affirming the Armenian Genocide.
>
> It would be best if every one could openly state their beliefs and
> freely publish whatever they have to sup****t their beliefs without
> fear of punishment. Any story, no matter how personal it may be to
> some, is of questionable value if it requires punishment to uphold its
> validity.
>
> Irving served time while Zundel is still in prison for "holocaust
> denial". Those who value freedom and especially freedom of speech
> condemn the persecution of these people even if they disagree with
> their positions. If allowed to freely express their ideas, they could
> be ridiculed by society but once imprisoned they became prisoners of
> conscience.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zundel
>
> Do you know if there are any Turkish historians currently in prison
> for affirming the Armenian Genocide?
>
> Have a nice vegetarian day!