On Jun 17, 10:47=A0am, Surreyman <a.spenc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 17 Jun, 11:52, F=C3=A9achad=C3=B3ir <F=E9ach@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Scr=EDobh Surreyman <a.spenc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >On 17 Jun, 08:59, F=C3=A9achad=C3=B3ir <F=E9ach@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> Scr=EDobh Solus <fingal_re...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> >On Jun 16, 12:33=A0pm, Michael O'Neill <o...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> >> The Irish vote was the vox populi ignored by Brussels for so
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> > >> >> It didn't say "we don't want to be in Europe".
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> > >> >The two speed Europe beckons for those of you that want it and the
> > >> >road won=92t lead you to Rome. Think M25.
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> > >> We've had a two-speed Europe for years. The euro isn't used in the
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> > >> and not all countries are in Schengen. The EU Is in general very
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> > >> at accommodating different national interests and setting up blocs
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> > >> pursue various ideas. It's trouble is that it's never been able to
> > >> come up with a model for government that couldn't expand
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> > >> every time a new member joined, instead needing a new treaty to
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> > >> the expansion of voting members, and taking the op****tunity to
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> > >> with its overall workings each time.
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> > >> --
> > >> 'Donegal: =A0Up Here It's Different'
> > >> =A9 F=E9achad=F3ir
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> > >The EU's problem now is attempting to accomodate, equitably, between
> > >the ranges of intelligent thoroughly modern Roman Catholics and
> > >backward agricultural Moslems, and everything in between - no slight
> > >intended to any.
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> > I come from a family of backward agricultural Catholics. Right now,
> > I'm feeling incredibly grateful to the thoroughly modern Muslim
> > neurosurgeon who operated successfully on a close family member eight
> > days ago.
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> > There are reasons to criticise the Lisbon referendum. Religious
> > bigotry isn't one of them.
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> > >That's why it's not the same as the historic USA model.
> > >It is also, incidentally, run by a thoroughly corrupt and hideously
> > >expensive administrative gravy train.
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> > So it is like the US model after all?
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> > >These are why the cracks are now starting to appear.
> > >A noble ideal ruined by the politicians.
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> > On the contrary, it's been an incredible success.
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> > 'Donegal: =A0Up Here It's Different'
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> There was no religious bigotry whatsoever in my previous post, if you
> bothered to read it properly, especially since I also covered in the
> same sentence "everything in between".
> It could just as easily have read "backward agricultural Irish to
> modern educated Moslems.", if you prefer that.
> The hang-ups are with you.
> And if you think that the US government costs anything like the EU
> expenses per head (also remembering that the EU is a sideline
> additional to the actual national governments involved) then dream on.
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Well said, Spence.
In the US there is minimal inteference with business and commerce.
You can set up a business in a matter of days without waiting for
months or
years to get licenses, permits, inspections, etc. In other countries
one has to
bribe an bureaucracy of government officials in order to get things
done.
Economic activity gets crushed by an army of parasites who don't work
other
than to facilitate bribe taking. I am talking about Kenya, Zimbabwe,
Yemen,
Mexico, Honduras, and about 100 additional countries.
Cheers, David H
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