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Re: Just As True Today As It Was In 1779

by Jack Linthicum <jacklinthicum@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 3, 2008 at 10:31 AM

On Jul 3, 11:51 am, "William Black" <william.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> "Jack Linthi***" <jacklinthi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 3, 10:43 am, "William Black" <william.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > wrote:
> >> "conwaycaine" <conwayca...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>news:Jh4bk.26387$s77.3201@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> > "William Black" <william.bl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >news:g4g80r$ehi$2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >>news:osKak.13$AB3.228@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>> "Our cause is noble; it is the cause of mankind!"
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> >> >>> -- George Wa****ngton (letter to James Warren, 31 March 1779)
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> >> >> All revolutionaries come out with crap like that:
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> >> >> "the honour and liberty of parliament, for which we unanimously
fight,
> >> >> without seeking our own interests..."
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> >> >> Oliver Cromwell....
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> >> > Comparing Oliver Cromwell to George Wa****ngton are we?
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> >> Well they started out pretty similar didn't they.
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> >> Farmers who became involved in politics and went on to become
successful
> >> soldiers revolting against royal authority.
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> >> It is possible (nay probable) that Wa****ngton was well aware of
> >> Cromwell's
> >> failings and so deliberately avoided following  the path to tyranny.
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> >> I think Cromwell was probably a better soldier though.  He
essentially
> >> invented the modern regular army as well as working out how to make
> >> cavalry
> >> do more than one charge per battle...
>
> >> Wa****ngton was certainly a better politician...
>
> > You know that OC came close to immigrating to Connecticut?
>
> I know he was invited.
>
> I don't know how seriously he considered the offer.
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> --
> William Black
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.

It says in one of the bios that the government prevented him from
going but I have seen another statement where he said if some
commission or committee had turned out differently he would have gone.
Relatives did.

"There appears to be no foundation for the statement that he was
stopped by an order of council when on the point of abandoning England
for America, though there can be little doubt that the thoughts of
emigration suggested themselves to his mind at this period. He viewed
the "innovations in religion" with abhorrence. According to Clarendon
he told the latter in 1641 that if the Grand Remonstrance had not
passed "he would have sold all he had the next morning and never have
seen England more." In 1631 he converted his landed property into
money, and John Hampden, his cousin, a patentee of Connecticut in
1632, was on the point of emigrating. Cromwell was perhaps arrested in
his project by his succession in 1636 to the estate of his uncle Sir
Thomas Steward, and to his office of farmer of the cathedral tithes at
Ely, whither he now removed."
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Oliver_Cromwell
 




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