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Re: Just As True Today As It Was In 1779

by "Keith Willshaw" <keithnospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 5, 2008 at 06:31 PM

"William Black" <william.black@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:g4o7ec$3f0$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

>>
>> He was intolerant, the campaign in Ireland was brutal involving mass
>> execution, the repression of Catholicism.
>
> Catholicism had been repressed for many years.
>

Not in Ireland

> Margret of York wasn't pressed to death in Cromwell's time.
>
> Mind you,  she wasn't pressed to death for being a Catholic either...
>

So thats its totally irrelevant

> As for mass executions...
>
> That's a new one on me.
>

Really.

> I'm not sure that he ever did anything that was considered 'against the 
> rules and usages of war'.
>

Excecuting the garrison of Millmount Fort after they had surrendered
on the promise of fair treatment certainly qualifies. Burning down the 
Catholic
churches in the town wasnt exactly honorable bevhaviour and neither were
his
actions at Kilkenny.. On that occasion when the walls were breached the
garrison in accordance with the rules of war offered their surrender.
Cromell hanged all the officers and any priests found.

At Wexford while negotiations with the defenders of Wexford were
ongoing and after the castle had already been surrendered Cromwell's army
fired on the town and his army killed over 2000 soldiers, many of whom
had already surrendered and shot down around 1500 civilians as they
attempted to flee the town. Most of the town was burned after having been
looted. Less than 20 parliamentarian soldiers were killed.

Cromwell's response to criticism of that even was "they were made with
their
blood to answer for the cruelties they had exercised upon diverse poor 
Protestants"

Keith
 




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