On Jul 10, 9:55 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 10, 6:13 am, Jack Linthi*** <jacklinthi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Jul 9, 9:10 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > "Jack Linthi***" <jacklinthi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Jul 9, 9:53 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> "Jack Linthi***" <jacklinthi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> > On Jul 8, 9:39 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> >> "Peter Skelton" <skelt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> >> > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:15:27 GMT, "La N"
> > > > >> >> > <nilita2004NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> >> >>"John Briggs" <john.brig...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> >> >>> Peter Skelton wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 23:46:36 +0100, "John Briggs"
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> > > > >> >> >>>>> William Black wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>>>>> "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>> He's said he isn't going to run away in Iraq or
> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>> Afghanistan.
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> > > > >> >> >>>>>>>> That'll do for me...
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> > > > >> >> >>>>>>> As in ... "you broke it, you fix it?"
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> > > > >> >> >>>>>> As in 'I don't want to live in a world where the USA
has
> > > > >> >> >>>>>> ceased
> > > > >> >> >>>>>> to
> > > > >> >> >>>>>> be a power'.
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> > > > >> >> >>>>> Really? Wouldn't it be a safer one?
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> > > > >> >> >>>> Power vaccuums are a really bad thing. Look at the mess
> > > > >> >> >>>> that
> > > > >> >> >>>> came
> > > > >> >> >>>> out of the collapse of the evil empire. It had to
happen,
> > > > >> >> >>>> don't
> > > > >> >> >>>> get me wrong there but several nasty wars, including
the
> > > > >> >> >>>> current
> > > > >> >> >>>> messes in Iraq and Afghanistan, resulted.
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> > > > >> >> >>> Er, no - that really isn't what happened.
> > > > >> >> >>> --
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> > > > >> >> >>Yes, I would like my countryman, Mr. Skelton, to clarify
SVP.
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> > > > >> >> > OFCS it's bloody simple. While the evil empire existed,
nobody
> > > > >> >> > would risk starting a war like Iraq without UN agreement
(or
> > > > >> >> > agreement of the evil empire). Exit the Iraq mess.
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> > > > >> >> > Given that the resources in Iraq were available for
> > > > >> >> > Afghanistan,
> > > > >> >> > exit the Afghan mess.
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> > > > >> >> > Do you really need me to explain how the mess in the
Balkans
> > > > >> >> > or
> > > > >> >> > the various nasty little wars and the middle-sized one
going
> > > > >> >> > on
> > > > >> >> > in the shards of the old Soviet Union are related to the
> > > > >> >> > break-up?
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> > > > >> >> And ... so .... when / if the US pulls out of Iraq (under
> > > > >> >> Obama's
> > > > >> >> leader****p), then what ....?
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> > > > >> >> - nilita
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> > > > >> > If we get lucky Iran tries to take our place.
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> > > > >> You're an Obama sup****ter, Jack. Doesn't his foreign policy
scare
> > > > >> you?
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> > > > >> - nilita
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> > > > > In what way?
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> > > > You know what they're saying ... that he's going to pull the US
out of
> > > > Iraq,
> > > > create a huge power vacuum, thus making the Middle East a
dangerous
> > > > place
> > > > for the world!
>
> > > > - nilita
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> > > I would like to see Iran in our position now. Eight million Sunnis,
> > > five million Kurds, at least two ****a factions and the additional
> > > problem of being Persian not Arab. Pakistan is what makes the Middle
> > > East a dangerous place, even though it is not technically part of
the
> > > Middle East. Meantime those dastardly Israelis are going around
making
> > > peace pacts with obvious bad people and making the whole U.S.
> > > operation look like your Uncle Walter trying to rearrange
Thanksgiving
> > > dinner so he won't have to sit at the same table with your second
> > > cousin.
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> > Point to be taken
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>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/world/asia/10terror.html?_r=1&hp$B"K(B...
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> > WA****NGTON $B!=(B American military and intelligence officials say
there
> > has been an increase in recent months in the number of foreign
> > fighters who have traveled to Pakistan$B!G(Bs tribal areas to join
with
> > militants there.
>
> > The flow may reflect a change that is making Pakistan, not Iraq, the
> > preferred destination for some Sunni extremists from the Middle East,
> > North Africa and Central Asia who are seeking to take up arms against
> > the West, these officials say.
>
> > The American officials say the influx, which could be in the dozens
> > but could also be higher, shows a further strengthening of the
> > position of the forces of Al Qaeda in the tribal areas, increasingly
> > seen as an im****tant base of sup****t for the Taliban, whose forces in
> > Afghanistan have become more aggressive in their campaign against
> > American-led troops.
>
> > According to the American officials, many of the fighters making their
> > way to the tribal areas are Uzbeks, North Africans and Arabs from
> > Persian Gulf states. American intelligence officials say that some
> > jihadist Web sites have been encouraging foreign militants to go to
> > Pakistan and Afghanistan, which is considered a $B!H(Bwinning
fight,$B!I(B
> > compared with the insurgency in Iraq, which has suffered sharp
> > setbacks recently.
>
> > The number of foreign fighters entering Iraq has dropped to fewer than
> > 40 a month from as many as 110 a month a year ago, a military
> > spokesman in Baghdad said Wednesday. $B!H(BThe sanctuary situation
in
> > Pakistan$B!G(Bs tribal areas and North-West Frontier Province is
more,
> > rather than less, troublesome than before,$B!I(B Gen. David D.
McKiernan,
> > the new NATO commander in Afghanistan, said in a telephone interview.
> > $B!H(BThe ****ous border has allowed insurgent militant groups a
greater
> > freedom of movement across that border, as well as a greater freedom
> > to resupply, to allow leader****p to sustain stronger sanctuaries, and
> > to provide fighters across that border.$B!I(B <more>
>
> > ***********************
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> > Hmm ... then "we" better pull out of Iraq and move on in to Pakistan.
>
> > Whatever happens in the future, Bush sup****ters will retroactively
blame
> > Obama.
>
> > - nilita
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> If they can get that in during their confessions
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> Ahhhhh .... you're implying that by then waterboarding will truly be en
> vogue!
>
> - nilita
I would guess that a few people might have noticed that the probable
next president of the United States has just endorsed one of the
grosser desires of the present president. That doesn't bode well for
the nearly innocent by presidential commutation.
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