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Jefferson and Charlemagne, Phoenician descendants - uh huh

by "Dora Smith" <villandra@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 20, 2007 at 06:22 PM

To start with, LOL.

See http://phoenicia.org/genetics.html,
and 
http://phoenicia.org/jefferson.html
  Jefferson's DNA proves that 
Charlemagne was descended from the Phoenicians, because Jefferson was 
descended from the Phoenicians, and we know he was descended from 
Charlemagne.   The Lebanese have somehow been proven to have "Phoenician" 
genetic markers.  The Phoenicians are a very mysterious people who are the

granddaddies of us all.   Eyes rolling!   They cursed, and everything!

These people have Phoenicians on the brain.   However, apparently Spencer 
Wells picked up on it.   I get the idea the he apparently thinks
Jefferson's 
DNA has something to do with Phoenicians.   Though I've yet to actually 
verify that he thinks such a thing, and clearly the people who quote him 
here are over the edge off the deep end.    Wells is not the most 
intellectually rigorous person in the world, but .... ?

So I thought I'd better point out a couple of things.

Phoenicia was a little state in the northwestern corner of Palestine,
where 
Lebanon is now.   Only Lebanon covers more territory.   Vuhhy mysterious
why 
the Lebanese should be genetically similar to "Phoenicians", however we
know 
what sort of DNA they had.

But we can make some pretty good guesses what sort of DNA Phoenicians
would 
ahve had.   THe people of Palestine at that time, and particularly 
northwestern Palestine, were a mixture of northwest Semitic, 
proto-Indo-European, Hurrian (Asiatic), and Indo-Aryan.

The genetic mythology seems to be that Phoenicians formed large 
Indo-European or whatever colonies all along the Mediterranean.   Ummm,
that 
would have been the Sea Peoples, who were a mixture of proto-Indo-European

and Indo-European people, and by the time they'd spread around enough some

Middle Eastern as well.    The Sea Peoples took over parts of Anatolia,
and 
parts of southwestern Palestine, and they included the Myceneans.

I honestly don't think the Phoenicians got very far in very large numbers.

Not impossible they traded with Spain and Britain, as they were merchants 
and traders and trade networks went all over in their time; but they sure 
didn't supplant the local populations or whatever.

On the other hand, Joblin et al present clear evidence of a genetic trail 
leading through Egypt and North Africa to Spain, of people who are close 
genetic matches (atleast with 8 markers), of Thomas Jefferson.

-- 
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
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 3 Posts in Topic:
Jefferson and Charlemagne, Phoenician descendants - uh huh
"Dora Smith" &l  2007-05-20 18:22:36 
Re: Jefferson and Charlemagne, Phoenician descendants - uh huh
"John W. Kennedy&quo  2007-05-20 21:39:36 
Re: Jefferson and Charlemagne, Phoenician descendants - uh huh
"Dora Smith" &l  2007-05-20 23:12:47 

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