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Re: The lowly sweet potato may unlock America?s past

by Jack Linthicum <jacklinthicum@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 29, 2008 at 04:27 AM

On Jun 29, 5:38 am, SolomonW <Solom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> In article <91fbd267-47ce-4d05-b9aa-67b2494b1a29
> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, jrkrid...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 28, 10:44 am, SolomonW <Solom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > In article <MPG.22d0f7936ffbd233989681@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Solom...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > says...
>
> > > > The one convincing piece of evidence for pre-Hispanic contact has
been
> > > > the humble sweet potato, which is of tropical American origin but
widely
> > > > cultivated across the Pacific islands. Until a few years ago it
was
> > > > assumed that this was the result of Spanish transmission, dating
to the
> > > > early colonial period, but archaeological discoveries in the Cook
> > > > Islands show this to be wrong: excavations at Mangaia yielded
carbonised
> > > > remains of sweet potato (Ipomoea batatas) dating to AD1000, five
> > > > centuries before Europeans entered the Pacific Ocean.
>
> > > > This does not mean that such contact existed only that one
possible
> > > > explanation is contact.
>
> > > >http://www.bioedonline.org/picks/news.cfm?art=3336
>
> > > Oops I meant to include this article too!
>
> > >http://climate.uvic.ca/people/caavis/SPotato_V2.pdf-Hide
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Thanks. That's a rather interesting paper.  So far we seem to have
> > chickens in South America and sweet potatos in Polynesia before
> > Europeans arrived.
>
> > John Kane Kingston ON Canada
>
> The sweet potato without human being might be able to cross the ocean by
> either drift or inside a bird. It does not sound convincing but it is a
> possibility. The other possibility is that an American Indian lost at
> sea took it to the Pacific Island.
>
> However chickens do not swim and they can not fly the distance. If the
> chicken came to Chile from a Pacific Island someone had to bring it from
> the Pacific.
>
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/0703993104v2
>
> If so then the Polynesians must have had contact with the natives of
> South America before Columbus bring the chicken and they brought back
> from South America, the sweet potato.

This is the potato bit. Note the title and the date.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/court_and_social/article3601457.ece

and the article from the Journal of Archaeological Science,Volume 35,
Issue 2, February 2008, Pages 355-367 (Abstract) and pre print
http://climate.uvic.ca/people/alvaro/SPotato.pdf

http://archaeology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=archaeology&cdn=education&tm=15&f=10&su=p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jas.2007.04.004
 




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Re: The lowly sweet potato may unlock America?s past
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-06-29 04:27:40 

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