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Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world

by "Michele" <nospammiarmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 10, 2008 at 09:35 AM

<randy.mcdonald@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:29419f3b-cce8-4921-9684-75a1622f23d7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jul 8, 11:56 pm, bm2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> [deletia]
>
> Under this sort of scenario, what odds that a high percentage of the
> Yiddish-speaking Jews of eastern Europe still are doing so in 2008?
> Given nationalist pressures to assimilate, and efforts to make them
> proper Soviets in the USSR, possibly at gulag-point, one would think
> there would be a serious drop in the number of Yiddish-speakers: and
> not only by assimilation, but also by emigration (in a WWII-free
> world, how long does the US keep its immigration as restricted as it
> was during the 30's?).

I'd separate the Soviet Jews from the non-Soviet central and eastern
European Jews. Soviet Jews, as has been noted elsewhere in this
thread, were assimilating strongly to Russian culture even before the
Revolution.

Yiddish-speaking Jews in non-Soviet Europe would be different, with
their relatively and absolutely larger numbers and the existence of
strong barriers to assimilation via prejudice and residential
segregation and whatnot.

- Sorry, but a WWII-less world also means a Nazi-less world. And the
German 
Jews were not segregated, and a sizable part of them were assimilating
fast, 
before the Nazis came to power. There was prejudice, but for the majority
of 
the Germans it was selective: a traditionally-clad Polish-Jewish immigrant

street peddler, with his gibberish Yiddish, would be much less welcome 
anywhere than a German-speaking German professional dressed like a German,

who also happened to be Jewish as to his faith or, even less im****tantly,
as 
to his ancestry only.
 




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Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-08 20:56:19 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-07-09 05:46:53 
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Robert Savage <rbsavag  2008-07-09 14:59:37 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-09 13:48:14 
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Old Toby <tobiasburmei  2008-07-11 14:22:13 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 07:25:34 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 08:23:00 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-09 16:40:14 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 10:21:04 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-10 21:30:18 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-07-10 21:40:58 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-07-09 15:42:10 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
randy.mcdonald@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-09 23:44:37 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-10 09:35:11 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Mark Edelstein <edelst  2008-07-10 03:22:12 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Lee Ratner <LBRatner@[  2008-07-10 12:07:22 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Old Toby <tobiasburmei  2008-07-11 13:29:40 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-10 14:21:56 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-11 09:14:57 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-10 19:16:20 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 05:03:27 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-11 15:14:57 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 06:54:02 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-11 16:24:46 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Old Toby <tobiasburmei  2008-07-11 14:29:31 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 09:01:35 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-14 10:46:32 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 11:51:17 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 05:41:10 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
jussi.jalonen@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-14 06:24:05 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-14 17:12:27 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-07-15 01:44:06 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-15 09:56:02 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-07-17 05:46:27 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-07-15 01:29:02 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 08:00:30 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 11:21:37 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-15 09:46:37 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
jussi.jalonen@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-15 04:58:13 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-15 05:40:29 

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