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Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world

by bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 14, 2008 at 08:00 AM

On Jul 14, 7:24=A0am, jussi.jalo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

>
> Where do you get that idea? It's not as if Adolf Hitler was the only
> Nazi in existence, even if he was the fellow who eventually became the
> top honcho.
>
> Germany under Ernst R=F6hm, for example, would probably (by necessity)
> be more interested in the consolidation of the r=E9gime by domestic
> purges, and less intent on immediate outwards expansion.
>
> But it would still be a Nazi Germany, and in some ways, probably a
> more radical Nazi Germany than the historical one.
>
> > And there is a very close relation****p between Hitler and Nazism. The
t=
wo are
> > almost undetachable.
>
> Ironically enough, you seem to be echoing Hitler's own views of his
> im****tance as the Indispensable Leader and the Man of Destiny. Do you
> really want to advance this kind of an argument?
>

I presume you are suggesting a "Drowned baby" scenario, which although
pretty fun, struck me as a little improbable. I mean, would gay
socialist street-fighter Rohm have gone down as well with Hitler's OTL
wealthy sup****ters? (If he ever got back from Bolivia, anyway).

The Nazi party was pretty dinky when Hitler got involved: you think it
would have done as well without him? Although I suppose it's possible
that Drexler's DAP might have expanded and mutated into something
im****tant: there was clearly some open ideological ground on the right
for the Nazis to expand into OTL. Still, I'm a believer in the
im****tance of personalities: Hitler combined political talent with
crazy to a remarkable extent, and I don't think he's that easily
replaceable if you want to turn east-central Europe into a
charnelhouse.

Bruce
 




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Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-08 20:56:19 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Dan Goodman" &  2008-07-09 05:46:53 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Robert Savage <rbsavag  2008-07-09 14:59:37 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-09 13:48:14 
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Old Toby <tobiasburmei  2008-07-11 14:22:13 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 07:25:34 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 08:23:00 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-09 16:40:14 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 10:21:04 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-07-10 21:30:18 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-07-10 21:40:58 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-07-09 15:42:10 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
randy.mcdonald@[EMAIL PRO  2008-07-09 23:44:37 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-10 09:35:11 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Mark Edelstein <edelst  2008-07-10 03:22:12 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Lee Ratner <LBRatner@[  2008-07-10 12:07:22 
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Old Toby <tobiasburmei  2008-07-11 13:29:40 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-10 14:21:56 
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"Michele" <n  2008-07-11 09:14:57 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-10 19:16:20 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 05:03:27 
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"Michele" <n  2008-07-11 15:14:57 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 06:54:02 
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"Michele" <n  2008-07-11 16:24:46 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
Old Toby <tobiasburmei  2008-07-11 14:29:31 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 09:01:35 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-14 10:46:32 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 11:51:17 
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am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 05:41:10 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
jussi.jalonen@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-14 06:24:05 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-14 17:12:27 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-07-15 01:44:06 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-15 09:56:02 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-07-17 05:46:27 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-07-15 01:29:02 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 08:00:30 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 11:21:37 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
"Michele" <n  2008-07-15 09:46:37 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
jussi.jalonen@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-15 04:58:13 
Re: Future of Yiddish Eastern Europe in no-WWII world
am05@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-15 05:40:29 

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