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Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war

by "Michele" <nospammiarmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 28, 2008 at 09:22 AM

"Rich Rostrom" <rrostrom.21stcentury@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:rrostrom.21stcentury-C72F76.01092228082008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Michele" <nospammiarmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Wrong. Initially [Franco] was one among several generals, and not the
most
>>im****tant. The fact that others had deadly accidents and that he somehow
>>ended up in the first place is again an indication of his cleverness and
>>cautiousness.
>
> Yes, Sanjurjo and Mola died in plane crashes,
> leaving Franco in charge.
>
> But it is absolutely certain that Franco had
> nothing to do with Sanjurjo's death. If the
> crash was anyone's fault it was Sanjurjo
> himself, for choosing to fly in in Ansaldo's
> two-seater instead of the 7 passenger Dragon
> Rapide, and for insisting on bringing a heavy
> trunk full of dress uniforms.
>
> I don't know any of the details of Mola's
> fatal crash, but I've never heard there
> was any evidence it was other than an
> accident.

I never said the contrary. I do say Franco was clever and cautious, and I
do 
believe that the fact that he did not have accidents is more than sheer
luck 
(or unluckiness of those who had them).
Also note how Queipo de Llano, also a more im****tant figure in the plot
than 
Franco, ended up sidetracked; Cabanellas, who had opposed the appointment
of 
Franco as generalisimo and head of state, ended up as chief inspector. 
That's for the generals; as to the political leaders, no attempt was made
at 
saving Primo de Rivera; Fal Conde was forced into exile. It's more than a 
series of coincidences.
 




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No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-17 21:38:56 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-18 09:21:08 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-18 18:18:33 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-18 18:21:29 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-18 18:48:18 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-18 10:33:55 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-18 14:09:24 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-08-18 19:46:02 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-18 13:02:38 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-19 07:24:15 
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Strange Creature <stra  2008-08-18 14:04:48 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-18 14:47:22 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-08-19 10:23:39 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-19 11:50:16 
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jussi.jalonen@[EMAIL PROT  2008-08-19 04:30:34 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-19 15:58:54 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 07:48:11 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-19 11:43:32 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 07:49:21 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-08-19 16:08:23 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-19 07:56:54 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 09:57:57 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-08-19 18:24:19 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 11:04:40 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-08-19 22:36:45 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-20 08:28:56 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 18:56:09 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-26 17:47:01 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 20:42:20 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-27 18:50:59 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 01:21:35 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-29 22:34:47 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 18:57:03 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 12:18:03 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 11:24:01 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 19:06:46 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 22:13:36 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 09:32:27 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-26 09:48:06 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 11:51:47 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-26 08:18:21 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 18:59:47 
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"William Black"  2008-08-26 13:35:30 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 12:02:37 
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"William Black"  2008-08-26 18:33:16 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 08:20:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 17:47:15 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 08:31:20 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-26 17:04:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 09:18:34 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-27 10:00:49 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 11:29:39 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 09:39:15 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 09:45:10 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 11:11:46 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 12:03:00 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 21:53:14 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 09:43:46 
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David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-27 22:16:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:04:47 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-28 22:04:13 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-29 09:15:19 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 01:09:22 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:22:21 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 12:55:31 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-29 09:13:41 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 12:14:41 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 13:01:25 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 13:13:11 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 13:52:38 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 14:41:33 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 03:30:00 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 01:16:40 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:25:30 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 07:50:27 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 17:49:15 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 07:55:21 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 08:04:17 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 17:24:20 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 08:59:22 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 19:00:09 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 09:18:27 
Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 09:31:25 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Inapetente <alguien@[E  2008-08-27 18:46:39 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:02:08 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 19:07:47 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 10:12:59 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 08:59:59 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 10:23:58 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 13:25:30 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-28 03:09:40 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-28 08:09:33 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-28 08:23:08 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 18:29:56 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-28 08:29:50 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-28 14:21:30 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-29 02:30:53 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-29 10:39:36 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-29 08:57:25 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-30 12:41:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-09-01 09:32:46 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-26 11:41:20 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-26 15:52:41 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 20:36:17 

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