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Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war

by Jack Linthicum <jacklinthicum@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 28, 2008 at 03:09 AM

On Aug 28, 3:22=A0am, "Michele" <nospammiar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "Rich Rostrom" <rrostrom.21stcent...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ha scritto nel
messaggionew=
s:rrostrom.21stcentury-C72F76.01092228082008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> > "Michele" <nospammiar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>Wrong. Initially [Franco] was one among several generals, and not the
m=
ost
> >>im****tant. The fact that others had deadly accidents and that he
someho=
w
> >>ended up in the first place is again an indication of his cleverness
an=
d
> >>cautiousness.
>
> > Yes, Sanjurjo and Mola died in plane crashes,
> > leaving Franco in charge.
>
> > But it is absolutely certain that Franco had
> > nothing to do with Sanjurjo's death. If the
> > crash was anyone's fault it was Sanjurjo
> > himself, for choosing to fly in in Ansaldo's
> > two-seater instead of the 7 passenger Dragon
> > Rapide, and for insisting on bringing a heavy
> > trunk full of dress uniforms.
>
> > I don't know any of the details of Mola's
> > fatal crash, but I've never heard there
> > was any evidence it was other than an
> > accident.
>
> I never said the contrary. I do say Franco was clever and cautious, and
I=
 do
> believe that the fact that he did not have accidents is more than sheer
l=
uck
> (or unluckiness of those who had them).
> Also note how Queipo de Llano, also a more im****tant figure in the plot
t=
han
> Franco, ended up sidetracked; Cabanellas, who had opposed the
appointment=
 of
> Franco as generalisimo and head of state, ended up as chief inspector.
> That's for the generals; as to the political leaders, no attempt was
made=
 at
> saving Primo de Rivera; Fal Conde was forced into exile. It's more than
a
> series of coincidences.

and compare the series of "lucky" events that accompanied Hitler's
choices of methods until he reached the level that even luck couldn't
justify. Bold conquerors do well up to a point, they need to know
where and when that point arrives in order to not make that mistake.

There is a wonderful little short story about a man who finds a book
that tells him what to do in each crucial situation. The book has an
ending.
 




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No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
bm2617@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-17 21:38:56 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-18 09:21:08 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-18 18:18:33 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-18 18:21:29 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-18 18:48:18 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-18 10:33:55 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-18 14:09:24 
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akup@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-08-18 19:46:02 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-18 13:02:38 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-19 07:24:15 
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Strange Creature <stra  2008-08-18 14:04:48 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-18 14:47:22 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-08-19 10:23:39 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-19 11:50:16 
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jussi.jalonen@[EMAIL PROT  2008-08-19 04:30:34 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-19 15:58:54 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 07:48:11 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-19 11:43:32 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 07:49:21 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-08-19 16:08:23 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-19 07:56:54 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 09:57:57 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-08-19 18:24:19 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-19 11:04:40 
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"Jenny Brien" &  2008-08-19 22:36:45 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-20 08:28:56 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 18:56:09 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-26 17:47:01 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 20:42:20 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-27 18:50:59 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 01:21:35 
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"Doug" <doug  2008-08-29 22:34:47 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 18:57:03 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 12:18:03 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 11:24:01 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 19:06:46 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-25 22:13:36 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 09:32:27 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-26 09:48:06 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 11:51:47 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-26 08:18:21 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 18:59:47 
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"William Black"  2008-08-26 13:35:30 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 12:02:37 
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"William Black"  2008-08-26 18:33:16 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 08:20:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 17:47:15 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 08:31:20 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-26 17:04:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 09:18:34 
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"Mike stone" &l  2008-08-27 10:00:49 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 11:29:39 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 09:39:15 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 09:45:10 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 11:11:46 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 12:03:00 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 21:53:14 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 09:43:46 
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David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-27 22:16:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:04:47 
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David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-28 22:04:13 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-29 09:15:19 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 01:09:22 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:22:21 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 12:55:31 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-29 09:13:41 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 12:14:41 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 13:01:25 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 13:13:11 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-26 13:52:38 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 14:41:33 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 03:30:00 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-28 01:16:40 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:25:30 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 07:50:27 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 17:49:15 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 07:55:21 
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Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 08:04:17 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 17:24:20 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 08:59:22 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 19:00:09 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 09:18:27 
Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 09:31:25 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Inapetente <alguien@[E  2008-08-27 18:46:39 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 09:02:08 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
"Michele" <n  2008-08-27 19:07:47 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 10:12:59 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 08:59:59 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-27 10:23:58 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-27 13:25:30 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-28 03:09:40 
Re: Muchos Amigos de Francisco Franco en Estados Unidos
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-28 08:09:33 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-28 08:23:08 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-28 18:29:56 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-28 08:29:50 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-28 14:21:30 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-29 02:30:53 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
"Michele" <n  2008-08-29 10:39:36 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-08-29 08:57:25 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-30 12:41:52 
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"Michele" <n  2008-09-01 09:32:46 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-26 11:41:20 
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Faeelin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-08-26 15:52:41 
Re: No Hitler: Polish-German Danzig war
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 20:36:17 

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