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Re: The Soviet Training City

by "a425couple" <a425couple@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 28, 2008 at 08:28 AM

"news.iglou.com" <jtmajor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote ... 
> "Michele" <nospammiarmel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote ...
>> "The Old Man" <Braungart@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ha scritto nel messaggio...
>>> The Soviets had deep sleepers in the US (or were reputed to) 
>>> in case of a war. Why not Japan "just in case"? 
> -- I remember hearing when I was a kid about some super secret 
> Soviet center for training deep-cover illegals. ---
>    I suppose this was the sort of hysterical misperception that, --

> There was a enthusiastic literature on 
> the Vast Nazi Espionage Establishment whose perpetrators 
> were not embarrassed by its total non-confirmation.

Yeah, always hard to prove 'the negative' 
(or even to be really positive in your own mind of ??)
 
>    Note that none of these alleged "sleeper" agents has come out 
> of hiding, now that the purpose of their mission is dead and gone.

#1.  What would you do if you were one?
   (tis prudent sometimes, to let sleeping dogs lie...
    and if you;ve been a sleeping dog, maybe best to just 
    not stir up a fuss...)

#2.  Recall one person involved in the transfer of US 
A-bomb secrets to Soviets (I can't recall name right now 
but fairly easily found).  Only years later was 'fairly firm' 
evidence found to identify him, he was questioned.
He has been very careful in his statements. 
He will not (to public's knowledge) give evidence against 
himself or others, nor will he deny, but will say that 
that was a long time ago, and he has changed his mind 
about many things.  Prudent!
 
>  --- Would Soviet "sleeper" agents have been 
> well-trained and loyal?  ---

The majority probably would have been, 
for a reasonable period of time.
But, they are human --- alterable - software.
(You can "hardwire" a computer or any machine 
to until disabled - do it's thing on command)
But as years go by, a person will change and evolve.
Take a person fresh out of "boot camp" & "AIT", 
test them as to attitudes, values, & reactions to 
specific stimulis.
Do it again, 2 years later - a change.
Ten & Twenty years later - more change.
Some things remain, but others greatly altered.
 




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What IF: Japan Sent Paratroops to Pearl Harbor ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 22:07:03 
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"Anthony Buckland&qu  2008-08-24 14:27:55 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 09:48:08 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-25 11:00:45 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 15:28:59 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 09:14:53 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 17:19:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 19:53:30 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-25 16:42:38 
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The Old Man <Braungart  2008-08-25 06:59:21 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 11:16:52 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 09:23:39 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-25 18:32:00 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-25 11:29:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 15:51:53 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 10:34:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 16:04:52 
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The Old Man <Braungart  2008-08-26 04:57:31 
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"Michele" <n  2008-08-26 15:24:53 
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"news.iglou.com"  2008-08-26 17:20:59 
The Soviet Training City
"news.iglou.com"  2008-08-26 17:27:48 
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"William Black"  2008-08-26 22:56:46 
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"a425couple" &l  2008-08-28 08:28:12 
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"news.iglou.com"  2008-08-28 18:08:52 
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"a425couple" &l  2008-08-29 08:33:46 
Re: What IF: Japan Sent Paratroops to Pearl Harbor ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 07:19:40 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 08:31:27 
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Dennis <tsalagi18NOSPA  2008-09-09 06:22:59 
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"a425couple" &l  2008-08-26 09:23:25 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 09:56:38 
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"a425couple" &l  2008-08-28 09:59:13 
Re: The Soviet Training City
Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-26 15:42:05 
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"Anthony Buckland&qu  2008-08-26 17:34:53 
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Dennis <tsalagi18NOSPA  2008-09-09 06:25:29 
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"William Black"  2008-09-09 15:44:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 11:06:00 
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"William Black"  2008-08-27 22:40:25 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-27 16:41:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 19:50:10 
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"William Black"  2008-08-28 14:22:55 
Re: What IF: Japan Sent Paratroops to Pearl Harbor ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 19:56:52 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-27 23:35:17 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:50:30 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-28 03:57:25 
Re: The Soviet Training City
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 06:33:20 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-29 14:01:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 11:54:36 
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"a425couple" &l  2008-08-28 13:44:54 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 12:12:35 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 13:58:20 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 04:16:02 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 13:43:33 
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The Old Man <Braungart  2008-08-29 04:17:07 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 13:46:03 
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The Old Man <Braungart  2008-08-29 04:28:33 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-29 04:38:15 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-08-29 10:20:56 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 13:36:24 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 17:29:43 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-09-09 03:03:22 
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Dennis <tsalagi18NOSPA  2008-09-09 20:49:52 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-09-09 17:23:43 
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Jack Linthicum <jackli  2008-09-09 14:10:47 
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