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Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?

by SilentOtto <silentotto@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 28, 2008 at 02:04 PM

On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, dabrob <dab...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 6:59 pm, Stephen Graham  wrote:
>
> > > If Luzon is tem****arily bypassed then there are more than enough
> > > unused Japanese resources available to make it so
>
> > You might want to look at how long it took the United States to subdue
> > the area.
>
> Yeah, I know but the US was considerably less ruthless than the
> Japanese showed themselves to be.

One does have to keep in mind that due to the shock and
disorganization caused by the sudden Japanese landings, much military
supply was out of position and  lost.

Had MacArthur's forces been initially bypassed, he would have a lot
more time to prepare for the landing that he would know, with almost
near certainty, would be coming.

If properly prepared to withstand an assault, meaning better prepared
positions and supplies properly relocated, the Philippines may never
fall to the forces the Japanese had available to take them.

I don't think the Japanese could tolerate the risk that the U.S. might
hold out, and giving MacArthur more time to prepare for an attack
would obviously increase that risk.

The IJA were well aware of the advantages bestowed by surprise, and I
just can't see the IJA willingly ceeding those advantages.  So, any
idea that the Philippines be initally bypassed would almost certainly
be quashed.
 




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What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-19 07:08:34 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-20 04:49:04 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-20 05:38:27 
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SolomonW <SolomonW@[EM  2008-08-21 02:30:26 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-20 11:38:07 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"no.one" <no  2008-08-20 20:30:34 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-20 19:57:29 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
pyotr filipivich <pham  2008-08-20 18:13:48 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 05:18:11 
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pyotr filipivich <pham  2008-08-21 10:05:42 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 04:44:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 07:33:04 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-21 20:21:29 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 23:11:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 05:30:01 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-22 12:16:42 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 12:28:43 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-22 15:14:19 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-22 21:04:20 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-22 14:03:40 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-22 14:38:42 
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"no.one" <no  2008-08-23 21:19:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 15:05:23 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-23 06:40:15 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 16:48:39 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-24 14:32:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 16:54:36 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-24 15:05:47 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 17:56:52 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-24 15:33:59 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 18:53:36 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 17:58:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 10:29:23 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 17:31:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 18:45:52 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-27 15:43:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 19:23:20 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-27 15:59:00 
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mike <marathag@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 23:22:19 
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mike <marathag@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 23:28:49 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 05:09:35 
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Bob Scott <Bob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 17:19:26 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 16:25:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 17:06:43 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:08:14 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 18:14:31 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:44:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 05:18:54 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:46:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 12:40:42 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 15:00:46 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 13:53:40 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 15:31:35 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 14:01:15 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 15:35:30 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-28 14:04:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 16:31:23 
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Richard VanHouten <ric  2008-08-28 19:57:38 
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David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-29 02:16:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 16:46:00 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 14:12:17 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-08-28 17:08:08 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 17:09:05 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 15:11:39 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 20:45:44 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 14:47:05 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 15:31:05 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-28 22:31:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 22:36:23 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 22:49:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 23:30:39 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-29 10:48:20 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 17:41:29 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-29 03:21:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 05:50:25 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 06:39:31 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 14:48:30 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 06:47:00 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-30 09:50:44 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 15:02:20 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 07:25:20 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 15:32:00 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 11:17:42 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-30 18:45:10 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 22:45:50 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 15:21:36 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 18:23:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 18:28:00 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 21:29:41 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 21:48:41 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 23:08:13 
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Jamie McDonell <seumas  2008-08-22 07:44:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 05:02:49 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-22 11:50:55 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-08-23 03:16:40 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-22 12:36:34 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-22 13:54:14 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 10:26:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 11:16:48 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-22 20:40:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 13:35:04 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 03:30:46 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 14:21:08 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 09:43:04 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 04:16:28 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 12:53:24 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 05:49:56 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 10:31:05 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 12:54:08 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 09:28:59 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 17:24:39 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 12:32:02 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 03:57:47 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 06:39:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 13:42:45 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 13:52:50 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 23:08:53 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-24 00:05:54 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 16:39:25 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-24 01:13:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 19:02:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 20:22:23 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-25 17:15:12 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 17:37:35 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 13:45:51 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-26 18:12:06 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-26 17:35:15 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 12:25:58 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 12:38:17 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 14:23:50 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-09 21:56:06 
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"no.one" <no  2008-09-17 21:56:39 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-17 20:44:17 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-27 00:09:17 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 08:00:53 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 17:19:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 16:04:30 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-27 17:02:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 10:47:36 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-27 20:54:10 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 16:55:59 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-28 16:38:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 10:15:54 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-28 20:21:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 15:38:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 09:31:24 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 10:40:42 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-30 14:43:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 12:20:14 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-30 18:50:59 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-29 20:35:33 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-08-29 12:46:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 19:04:13 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-30 09:23:05 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 06:31:27 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-30 15:24:38 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 10:29:39 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-30 19:35:09 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-09-12 11:40:53 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-12 09:15:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-12 11:08:52 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-12 12:49:30 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-12 13:07:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-12 15:30:10 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-14 17:24:56 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-09-12 19:40:00 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-14 17:26:47 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-12 20:06:55 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-09-12 22:12:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-12 22:50:30 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-13 13:08:17 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-13 15:18:15 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-14 19:22:45 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-14 23:03:50 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-17 16:47:40 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 10:27:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-15 09:37:21 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-15 21:19:07 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 04:50:45 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 21:37:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-15 23:58:00 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-16 19:25:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 15:24:59 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 06:02:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-16 21:43:22 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-16 22:03:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 23:45:27 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 10:10:34 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 17:45:40 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-17 11:03:22 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-17 22:05:16 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-17 20:40:26 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 17:04:46 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 17:50:12 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-20 09:55:40 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 18:53:39 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:33:15 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:56:40 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-22 07:28:39 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:12:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 19:47:47 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 23:21:05 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 23:54:32 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-20 10:33:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 01:03:25 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 17:50:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 22:48:28 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 07:43:46 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-09-21 10:42:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 16:52:53 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:08:44 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 17:06:40 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:29:59 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-09-22 00:38:40 
What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ? Options
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 20:11:21 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ? Options
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-23 20:41:19 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ? Options
aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-24 08:52:24 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 20:54:27 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:44:29 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-22 07:27:22 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:10:41 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 05:50:08 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-09-22 19:13:07 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 19:45:27 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 20:06:35 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 20:23:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 08:34:15 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-23 22:04:17 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-23 17:39:39 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-24 08:51:26 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 08:40:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-17 21:34:06 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 10:30:03 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-18 07:23:05 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 07:20:13 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 00:03:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 08:47:28 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 21:39:02 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-18 18:43:02 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 10:51:17 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-09-19 13:44:20 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 17:48:01 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 19:54:34 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-09-19 21:00:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 23:59:58 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 08:43:56 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 09:49:14 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 18:09:30 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 23:05:13 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:13:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 18:45:31 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:31:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 19:00:50 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:32:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:53:27 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-22 07:30:20 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:11:41 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 20:01:35 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 20:09:14 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 08:57:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 22:58:30 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 06:13:16 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 07:31:53 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 23:17:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 07:27:05 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 00:00:24 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 18:10:31 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 05:13:33 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:17:57 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 17:58:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 22:54:18 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:10:45 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-10-04 15:33:26 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-10-04 18:03:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 19:46:38 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 20:40:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 00:56:54 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 17:46:19 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 22:38:54 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:06:03 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-09-21 08:38:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 16:34:37 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 18:30:01 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:27:46 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-10-04 15:41:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 19:51:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:35:09 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:01:53 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 19:26:29 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 19:45:26 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 20:08:32 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-20 20:56:54 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-20 21:38:11 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 05:18:12 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 07:58:58 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 00:39:06 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 05:18:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 07:37:58 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-21 12:44:49 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 15:27:15 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-21 17:10:09 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-21 20:21:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 04:40:36 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 01:24:35 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 01:38:42 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-22 12:42:23 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 13:52:18 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-22 18:11:16 

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