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Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?

by dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 28, 2008 at 04:31 PM

On Aug 28, 5:04=A0pm, SilentOtto  wrote:

> One does have to keep in mind that due to the shock and
> disorganization caused by the sudden Japanese landings, much military
> supply was out of position and =A0lost.
>
> Had MacArthur's forces been initially bypassed, he would have a lot
> more time to prepare for the landing that he would know, with almost
> near certainty, would be coming.
>
> If properly prepared to withstand an assault, meaning better prepared
> positions and supplies properly relocated, the Philippines may never
> fall to the forces the Japanese had available to take them.
>
> I don't think the Japanese could tolerate the risk that the U.S. might
> hold out, and giving MacArthur more time to prepare for an attack
> would obviously increase that risk.
>
> The IJA were well aware of the advantages bestowed by surprise, and I
> just can't see the IJA willingly ceeding those advantages. =A0So, any
> idea that the Philippines be initally bypassed would almost certainly
> be quashed.

Why do the Philipines really need to be taken at all ?

Once American air power there is broken (as it would be in my ATL just
as it was historically via Japanese land based air flotilla attacks)
and the limited US naval forces present driven off, what is the rush ?
A watch and a bombing campaign can be maintained until sufficient IJA
forces are freed up from other tasks, to invade there.

IIRC Japan wanted the rice crop, rubber and tin but most of that was
obtainable from the former French Indo-China areas only just acquired.
 




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What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-19 07:08:34 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-20 04:49:04 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-20 05:38:27 
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SolomonW <SolomonW@[EM  2008-08-21 02:30:26 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-20 11:38:07 
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"no.one" <no  2008-08-20 20:30:34 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-20 19:57:29 
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pyotr filipivich <pham  2008-08-20 18:13:48 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 05:18:11 
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pyotr filipivich <pham  2008-08-21 10:05:42 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 04:44:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 07:33:04 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-21 20:21:29 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 05:30:01 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-22 12:16:42 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 12:28:43 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-22 15:14:19 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-22 21:04:20 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-22 14:03:40 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-22 14:38:42 
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"no.one" <no  2008-08-23 21:19:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 15:05:23 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-23 06:40:15 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 16:48:39 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-24 14:32:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 16:54:36 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-24 15:05:47 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 17:56:52 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-24 15:33:59 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 18:53:36 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 17:58:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 10:29:23 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 17:31:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 18:45:52 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-27 15:43:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 19:23:20 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-27 15:59:00 
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mike <marathag@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 23:22:19 
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mike <marathag@[EMAIL   2008-08-24 23:28:49 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 05:09:35 
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Bob Scott <Bob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 17:19:26 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 16:25:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 17:06:43 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:08:14 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 18:14:31 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:44:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 05:18:54 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 11:46:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 12:40:42 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 15:00:46 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 13:53:40 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 15:31:35 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 14:01:15 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-28 15:35:30 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-28 14:04:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 16:31:23 
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Richard VanHouten <ric  2008-08-28 19:57:38 
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David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-29 02:16:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 16:46:00 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 14:12:17 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-08-28 17:08:08 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 17:09:05 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 15:11:39 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 20:45:44 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 14:47:05 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-29 15:31:05 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-28 22:31:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 22:36:23 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 22:49:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 23:30:39 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-29 10:48:20 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 17:41:29 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-29 03:21:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-29 05:50:25 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 06:39:31 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 14:48:30 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 06:47:00 
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"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-30 09:50:44 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 15:02:20 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 07:25:20 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 15:32:00 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 11:17:42 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-30 18:45:10 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-30 22:45:50 
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Stephen Graham <graham  2008-08-31 15:21:36 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 18:23:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-31 23:08:13 
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Jamie McDonell <seumas  2008-08-22 07:44:13 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 05:02:49 
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Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-22 11:50:55 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-08-23 03:16:40 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-22 12:36:34 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-22 13:54:14 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 10:26:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 11:16:48 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-22 20:40:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 13:35:04 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 03:30:46 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 14:21:08 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 09:43:04 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 04:16:28 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 12:53:24 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 05:49:56 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 10:31:05 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-23 12:54:08 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 09:28:59 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 17:24:39 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 12:32:02 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 03:57:47 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 06:39:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 13:42:45 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 13:52:50 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-23 23:08:53 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-24 00:05:54 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 16:39:25 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-24 01:13:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 19:02:44 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-23 20:22:23 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-25 17:15:12 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-25 17:37:35 
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Rich Rostrom <rrostrom  2008-08-26 13:45:51 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-26 18:12:06 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-26 17:35:15 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 12:25:58 
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"no.one" <no  2008-09-17 21:56:39 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-27 00:09:17 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 08:00:53 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-27 17:02:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 16:55:59 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-28 16:38:18 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 10:15:54 
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"Paul J. Adam"   2008-08-29 20:35:33 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-09-12 19:40:00 
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SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-09-13 14:27:58 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-13 15:18:15 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-14 19:22:45 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-14 23:03:50 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-17 16:47:40 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 10:27:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-15 09:37:21 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-15 21:19:07 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 04:50:45 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 21:37:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-15 23:58:00 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-16 19:25:11 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 15:24:59 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 06:02:09 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-16 21:43:22 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-16 22:03:22 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 23:45:27 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 10:10:34 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 17:45:40 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-17 11:03:22 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-17 22:05:16 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-17 20:40:26 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 17:04:46 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 17:50:12 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-20 09:55:40 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 18:53:39 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:33:15 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:56:40 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-22 07:28:39 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:12:22 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 19:47:47 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 23:21:05 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 23:54:32 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-20 10:33:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 01:03:25 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 17:50:33 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 22:48:28 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 07:43:46 
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raystwo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-09-21 10:42:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 16:52:53 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:08:44 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 17:06:40 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:29:59 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-09-22 00:38:40 
What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ? Options
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 20:11:21 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ? Options
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-23 20:41:19 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ? Options
aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-24 08:52:24 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 20:54:27 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:44:29 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-22 07:27:22 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:10:41 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 05:50:08 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-09-22 19:13:07 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 19:45:27 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 20:06:35 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 20:23:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 08:34:15 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-23 22:04:17 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-23 17:39:39 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-24 08:51:26 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-23 08:40:22 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-17 21:34:06 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 10:30:03 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-18 07:23:05 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 07:20:13 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 00:03:44 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 08:47:28 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-18 21:39:02 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-18 18:43:02 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 10:51:17 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-09-19 13:44:20 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 17:48:01 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 19:54:34 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-09-19 21:00:48 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 23:59:58 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 08:43:56 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 09:49:14 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 18:09:30 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 23:05:13 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:13:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 18:45:31 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:31:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 19:00:50 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:32:33 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:53:27 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-22 07:30:20 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:11:41 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 20:01:35 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 20:09:14 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 08:57:02 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 22:58:30 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 06:13:16 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 07:31:53 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 23:17:51 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 07:27:05 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 00:00:24 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 18:10:31 
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aspqrz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-21 05:13:33 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:17:57 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 17:58:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 22:54:18 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:10:45 
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The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-10-04 15:33:26 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-10-04 18:03:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 19:46:38 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-19 20:40:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 00:56:54 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-20 17:46:19 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-20 22:38:54 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 09:06:03 
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Duwop <tutall@[EMAIL P  2008-09-21 08:38:32 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 16:34:37 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 18:30:01 
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tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-21 21:27:46 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
The Horny Goat <lcrave  2008-10-04 15:41:16 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 19:51:21 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-21 22:35:09 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 18:01:53 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 19:26:29 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
tankfixer <paul.carrie  2008-09-22 19:45:26 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-09-22 20:08:32 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-20 20:56:54 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-20 21:38:11 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 05:18:12 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 07:58:58 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 00:39:06 
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kenney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 05:18:11 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 07:37:58 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-21 12:44:49 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 15:27:15 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
"Dimensional Travele  2008-08-21 17:10:09 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
Invid Fan <invid@[EMAI  2008-08-21 20:21:22 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 04:40:36 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 01:24:35 
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dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-21 01:38:42 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
SilentOtto <silentotto  2008-08-22 12:42:23 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
dabrob <dabrob@[EMAIL   2008-08-22 13:52:18 
Re: What IF: ... Japan had more Oilers for Dec.7'41 ?
David Johnson <trolley  2008-08-22 18:11:16 

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